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[Tintop]

Not to happy with how Jack is sitting

 

[Panky]

Don't rely on just the jack.

 

[Tintop]

Ok like this

 

[Tintop]

Do I just open screw and pull it off

 

[Tintop]

And couple taps of hammer ,can I pour water over to stop dust

 

[Tintop]

How does it look

 

[Panky]

Yep that cylinder is toast, I'd replace both to be sure. If the bores are OK you could fit new seals and keep them in the spares box. Good to see you're supporting the van safely too.
A spray of water is fine for keeping the dust down but get some proper brake and clutch cleaner to finish off. It looks a lot simpler than the single cylinder set up so you shouldn't have to much trouble, take care disconnecting the brake pipes though as they a easily destroyed. I'd start spraying the connection with penetrating oil now, and do it daily, to give you a chance of saving the pipes while you wait for the spares to arrive.

 

[Tintop]

Yep that cylinder is toast, I'd replace both to be sure. If the bores are OK you could fit new seals and keep them in the spares box. Good to see you're supporting the van safely too.
A spray of water is fine for keeping the dust down but get some proper brake and clutch cleaner to finish off. It looks a lot simpler than the single cylinder set up so you shouldn't have to much trouble, take care disconnecting the brake pipes though as they a easily destroyed. I'd start spraying the connection with penetrating oil now, and do it daily, to give you a chance of saving the pipes while you wait for the spares to arrive.

Thanks panky from the help I get on here it gives me the confidence to have a go ,, I think if u own an old vehicle u need to have a go or u will have empty pockets , I actually enjoyed it , do u think brake cleaner would be enough to clean up everything ? Drums look in excellent condition no burrs ,shoes look good to, when removing the cylinders and brake pipes do I need to remove master cylinder cap or do I just back off on the drum brake adjuster? Also do I have to bleed whole system after new cylinders on that drummThanks again for the help really appreceated

 

[Panky]

Glad to be of assistance. If the shoes are heavily contaminated then it's recommended they should be changed. The brake cleaner will do everything else including the shoes if they're no too bad.

 

[Tintop]

Just checking the manual on here and the 2500 series van rear shoes are the exact same measurement as my 1500 series front drumbrake shoes , , could I use them on my Van's from drums , has thas the 2500series got 2 cylinders or would that matter ? 2500 series 10×2 1/4 254× 57mm exact same as my 1500series actually both use that size on the front and the 2500series uses the on front and rear , anyhow I have a few places that reline them to ring in the morning , it's all down to price , i get scrwd on postage and customs

 

[S0updragon]

I’ve not done shoes for decades. I imagine that you need to check that all the connections are the same too. Bolt holes etc and are the drum diameters the same. 2 pot are more powerful than 1 pot, I think. I’m being a bit vague sorry but it’s been 25 years since I changed a shoe.

 

[Tintop]

I’ve not done shoes for decades. I imagine that you need to check that all the connections are the same too. Bolt holes etc and are the drum diameters the same. 2 pot are more powerful than 1 pot, I think. I’m being a bit vague sorry but it’s been 25 years since I changed a shoe.

Thanks soupdragon I was thinking the same myself about holes connections ect line up , I may have found a set , but want to check out if I it's cheaper to get them relined here , impressed that u actually changed urs , hopefully when I do mine they will last 25 yrs , i am just going to check the back ones while I,m at it and get spares for them to .

 

[Panky]

I don't think they will fit as the rear brakes have a single floating cylinder, but if there's an image of the shoes you could compare them to what you have.
There's bound to be an alternative out there as they wouldn't have made a bespoke shoe just for the FC

 

[Tintop]

Thanks panky do u know if mine are riveted type I have it V all back on and cant see from my picture I rang the relining place and they need to see a picture of them , so I will send them one 25 euro each shoe , cheaper than buying from UK and postage and customs , so fingers crossed they can do them when they see pictures

 

[Panky]

I can't see any sign of rivets on the back face of the shoes so more than likely bonded, Good news you found a place to re-line them.

 

[S0updragon]

Getting them relined would certainly be easier for you. With a bit of luck they may be able to tell you what other makes are the same. It would be useful to have a pair spare so you could still drive it while waiting for them to reline the worn ones. Pity there isn’t a shop just over the border you could then smuggle them back lol.

 

[Tintop]

Getting them relined would certainly be easier for you. With a bit of luck they may be able to tell you what other makes are the same. It would be useful to have a pair spare so you could still drive it while waiting for them to reline the worn ones. Pity there isn’t a shop just over the border you could then smuggle them back lol.

hi soupdragon , as far as I know we dont have a border anymore , Ireland is terrible for classic van car parts unless it's that eircooled unnamed vechicle , loads of parts for them , I was thinking of setting up a shop myself here but I dont know if it's worth it , only 6million people here and very few classics , as for the relining they reckon it takes about an hour , they still arent 100% sure they can do them until they PHYSICALLY see them , I dont get it , I thought the relining process would be the same for all shoes anyway the cylinder arrived today still havnt opened the box to check them , fingers crossed , I should of got rear cylinders aswell , bit concerned doing the brakes ,due to the material in the shoes , I wish I was 20 again were u dont know care about the dangers out there , anyhow I will be like an astronaut when working on them , thanks again for help

 

[Tintop]

I can't see any sign of rivets on the back face of the shoes so more than likely bonded, Good news you found a place to re-line them.

hi panky could u tell me do i have to have cap of master and do i need to turn that cog to loosen before taking off van shoes ?

 

[Panky]

No need to cap off the master, you'll loose fluid anyway when you change the cylinders and you will need to bleed the brakes. Back of the adjusters to make things slightly easier to get the shoes off and on.
Don't worry about dust just make sure you dampen everything down, modern brake linings don't contain asbestos.

 

[Tintop]

No need to cap off the master, you'll loose fluid anyway when you change the cylinders and you will need to bleed the brakes. Back of the adjusters to make things slightly easier to get the shoes off and on.
Don't worry about dust just make sure you dampen everything down, modern brake linings don't contain asbestos.

Thanks panky , I am not sure if the brake shoes are the originals or not as the van only has 69.000 on the clock , as far as i,ve been told it went from the original owners garage to another garage ect , hasnt really being on the road , i,ll take precautions anyhow . Should I just spray it down with plenty of brake cleaner Cheers mate