mystery clutch???

Have you got much end float in the crank shaft??
If you get hold of the front pully and pull and push it see if you have much movement[?][?]

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It fits in the end of the crankshaft. The end of the gearbox shaft passes throught the clutch components and sits in this bush. It effectively stops the end of the shaft from rattling around inside the crankshaft. They wear out and should be checked at every clutch change.

From Speedys "9200050 Spigot Bush £3.80"

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Hi Jon:) ...ok bear with me...the crankshaft? is that the bit where the starting handle goes?

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It fits in the end of the crankshaft. The end of the gearbox shaft passes throught the clutch components and sits in this bush. It effectively stops the end of the shaft from rattling around inside the crankshaft. They wear out and should be checked at every clutch change.

From Speedys "9200050 Spigot Bush £3.80"



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is it easy to fit? no, of course not, it all has to come out again right! ...but honestly, would that cause the problem?

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It can do, that's why it's best to check it out while it's all apart. Sounds like you may have to take it all out again anyway so worth getting one. Fitting is OK but getting the old worn one out can be fun!

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Have you got much end float in the crank shaft??
If you get hold of the front pully and pull and push it see if you have much movement[?][?]

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ok, Baz answered that...I will check 2moz...if I have excessive play then what? and what is excessive? roughly in a language even I can understand LOL

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Yes the front pulley where the starting handel goes. Get hold of it with both hand and pull/push it to see if it moves back and forward. If it does your crank spigot bushes are worn which is common so when you put your foot on the clutch its taking the play up. What the noise like? put a vid on here through photo bucket and i will soon tell you;)

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That'll be the crank thrust bearings, not the spigot bush! But either problem can give the symptoms you report Colin.

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It sounds like the noise of thrust/release bearing! Metal rattle noise, not too loud, kind of a whirring rattle, if that makes sense :I

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That'll be the crank thrust bearings, not the spigot bush! But either problem can give the symptoms you report Colin.

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Sorry baz if thats what you want to call it I no where it goes and how to replace it thats all that matters to me;)

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Does it change when you rev the engine? quieter or louder?

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no, it doesn't change....can't hear it when driving along...

Oi, Oi, stop that bickering Jon and Baz....you sound like 2 other peeps I know LOL:D

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Have a look at this page http://www.rootes.com/Catalogpages/p4.html

And at the bottom with baz's correct terminology of the component in question you will see them. There half moon flat shaped bearings and stop the end float in the crank. You shouldnt really have any that you can see by push pulling the crank but ive seen some commers that are like a cock in a sock and move alot. Big job if its your problem but i would want to be sure thats your fault first.

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The things that stop the crank from moving along it's axis are thrust washers IIRC (I know I said bearings before). The thing that sits in the end of the crank and in which the end of the gearbox shaft rests is the Spigot bush. At work so can't post pics at the moment (tried earlier but computer said "No").

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They call it a 'pilot bushing' but if you Google Image spigot bush you'll see it called both! Bloody language - Who needs it?

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no, it doesn't change....can't hear it when driving along...

Oi, Oi, stop that bickering Jon and Baz....you sound like 2 other peeps I know LOL:D

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Friendly banter thats what i call it! lol

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only other sympton...if relevant, it slips out of 3rd gear sometimes...not when accellerating, just when almost coasting...

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Yeah, so back off Poole boy!!!!:D

We're only trying to help you!:D

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only other sympton...if relevant, it slips out of 3rd gear sometimes...not when accellerating, just when almost coasting...


Are you a bit slack in the linkage department?;)

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