Modified historic Vehicles - future use!
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Poor old Charlie will have to scrap his Aston
"You,re only supposed to blow the bloody SLIDING doors off"
"You,re only supposed to blow the bloody SLIDING doors off"
The cop-out
"Will anyone be exempt from being tested to original standard specification?
Once again within the ‘proposal’ This Regulation shall not apply to:
•vehicles of historic interest
•vehicles belonging to armed forces, fire services, civil protection, emergency or rescue services"
How refreshing
"Will anyone be exempt from being tested to original standard specification?
Once again within the ‘proposal’ This Regulation shall not apply to:
•vehicles of historic interest
•vehicles belonging to armed forces, fire services, civil protection, emergency or rescue services"
How refreshing
Perfectly acceptable to drive a 40 ton tank transporter maintained by squaddies with lump hammers.
"You,re only supposed to blow the bloody SLIDING doors off"
"You,re only supposed to blow the bloody SLIDING doors off"
just recieved this reply:
Dear Sir/Madam
Thank you for your email addressed to Stuart Agnew MEP. He has asked me to reply on his behalf.
I can confirm that Stuart Agnew MEP and his fellow UKIP MEPs are very strongly against this proposed legislation and will vote against it. Our MEPs are opposed to the very principle of an unelected European Commission being the sole originator of all EU law, not least because it regularly produces repressive legislation like this without proper consultation or impact analysis.
However, our very great concern in this matter is the naivety of organisations that oppose the legislation, like the Association of Car Enthusiasts, who are drawing attention to this disaster in the making but seem to have very little understanding of the realities of the EU legislative process. I found this on the ACE website:
“… as shown later in this article, This is going to happen unless a member of the EC Parliament forces reconsideration.”
This is an astonishing assertion, given that the Commission generates the legislation and the European Parliament is merely a rubber stamping institution for approving it. People need to understand that there are 754 MEPs in the European Parliament of which the UK has just 72. Many of the 72 are EU enthusiasts and cannot be relied upon to vote in the best interests of our country on legislation like this. A single MEP hasn’t a cat in hell’s chance of getting a ‘reconsideration’ of this legislation. There is no actual debate in the European Parliament. Speaking time has to be applied for in advance and is allocated according to the size of the political group to which the individual MEP belongs. This may be as little as 1.5 minutes. The agenda of the Parliament is controlled by the Commission’s bureaucrats and MEPs may only speak to the items on that agenda. There are no private members bills, such as we have at Westminster.
MEPs may only 1) Try to amend legislation, or 2) Vote it down as a whole. Both of these options, to be successful, require widespread support from MEPs from other EU countries. This kind of support seldom happens and the voting down of legislation as a whole almost never happens. MEPs from the other nation states tend to be much more pro-EU and usually support the Commission’s proposals.
What I am trying to tell you is that this is going to be a very uphill battle, especially as the proposals have gone so far down the line. Unfortunately, this is now the form of ‘government’ that increasingly is running our country. Voters need to wake up to this and stop supporting political parties that are committed to EU membership, which is so damaging to our country’s interests and is such a clear threat to democracy itself.
We have received many emails on this subject and we share the concerns raised. Our MEPs will vigorously oppose this legislation within the constraints mentioned above.
Stuart Gulleford
Political Advisor to Stuart Agnew MEP
Office of Stuart Agnew MEP
UK Independence Party
145 New London Road
Chelmsford
Essex
CM2 0QT
Tel: 01245 266466
Fax: 01245 252071
Email: [email protected]
www.stuartagnewmep.co.uk
www.ukip.org
Dolly Commer Is Here http://66.129.69.181/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6833
Dear Sir/Madam
Thank you for your email addressed to Stuart Agnew MEP. He has asked me to reply on his behalf.
I can confirm that Stuart Agnew MEP and his fellow UKIP MEPs are very strongly against this proposed legislation and will vote against it. Our MEPs are opposed to the very principle of an unelected European Commission being the sole originator of all EU law, not least because it regularly produces repressive legislation like this without proper consultation or impact analysis.
However, our very great concern in this matter is the naivety of organisations that oppose the legislation, like the Association of Car Enthusiasts, who are drawing attention to this disaster in the making but seem to have very little understanding of the realities of the EU legislative process. I found this on the ACE website:
“… as shown later in this article, This is going to happen unless a member of the EC Parliament forces reconsideration.”
This is an astonishing assertion, given that the Commission generates the legislation and the European Parliament is merely a rubber stamping institution for approving it. People need to understand that there are 754 MEPs in the European Parliament of which the UK has just 72. Many of the 72 are EU enthusiasts and cannot be relied upon to vote in the best interests of our country on legislation like this. A single MEP hasn’t a cat in hell’s chance of getting a ‘reconsideration’ of this legislation. There is no actual debate in the European Parliament. Speaking time has to be applied for in advance and is allocated according to the size of the political group to which the individual MEP belongs. This may be as little as 1.5 minutes. The agenda of the Parliament is controlled by the Commission’s bureaucrats and MEPs may only speak to the items on that agenda. There are no private members bills, such as we have at Westminster.
MEPs may only 1) Try to amend legislation, or 2) Vote it down as a whole. Both of these options, to be successful, require widespread support from MEPs from other EU countries. This kind of support seldom happens and the voting down of legislation as a whole almost never happens. MEPs from the other nation states tend to be much more pro-EU and usually support the Commission’s proposals.
What I am trying to tell you is that this is going to be a very uphill battle, especially as the proposals have gone so far down the line. Unfortunately, this is now the form of ‘government’ that increasingly is running our country. Voters need to wake up to this and stop supporting political parties that are committed to EU membership, which is so damaging to our country’s interests and is such a clear threat to democracy itself.
We have received many emails on this subject and we share the concerns raised. Our MEPs will vigorously oppose this legislation within the constraints mentioned above.
Stuart Gulleford
Political Advisor to Stuart Agnew MEP
Office of Stuart Agnew MEP
UK Independence Party
145 New London Road
Chelmsford
Essex
CM2 0QT
Tel: 01245 266466
Fax: 01245 252071
Email: [email protected]
www.stuartagnewmep.co.uk
www.ukip.org
Dolly Commer Is Here http://66.129.69.181/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6833
I got this reply
Dear Mr Pankhurst
Thank you for your email regarding the European Union’s proposed ‘Roadworthiness Package’.
Mr Griffin has asked me to reply to you on his behalf.
The Roadworthiness Package contains a new EU definition of ‘Historic Vehicles’, formulated by the Federation Internationale des Vehicules Anciens (FIVA). FIVA’s definition is far more restrictive than the 8 point system currently operated in Britain.
Despite the fact that British regulations, which have been developed and refined over many years, are usually of the highest standards possible, the EU seeks continuously to replace them in the drive towards European “harmonisation”. Such harmonisation must be imposed on all Member States in order for the EU to create the seamless Single Market that will enable the construction of a new European Super State. Pivotal to achieving this end goal is the elimination of all traces of national diversity. Every facet of each Member State’s social and economic infrastructure is, therefore, now subject to EU-defined regulation.
EU initiatives are supposed to improve standards but, in reality, they generally serve to create unnecessary bureaucracy and suffocate British enterprise. Any notable improvements in services that may be achieved are, moreover, rendered insignificant by the over burdensome red tape and associated increase in costs for British business and consumers that the legislation entails.
As a British National Party MEP, Nick Griffin opposes all unnecessary interference in affairs which are rightly the concern of national governments. The proposed Roadworthiness Package, with its restrictive and narrow definition of Historic Vehicles, will hurt British business as well as curtailing the personal freedoms of classic car enthusiasts. He will, therefore, vote against the adoption of this proposal when it is presented to the European Parliament and will lobby other MEPs to do the same.
Kind regards
Tina Wingfield
Constituency Manager
For Nick Griffin, MEP
How refreshing
Dear Mr Pankhurst
Thank you for your email regarding the European Union’s proposed ‘Roadworthiness Package’.
Mr Griffin has asked me to reply to you on his behalf.
The Roadworthiness Package contains a new EU definition of ‘Historic Vehicles’, formulated by the Federation Internationale des Vehicules Anciens (FIVA). FIVA’s definition is far more restrictive than the 8 point system currently operated in Britain.
Despite the fact that British regulations, which have been developed and refined over many years, are usually of the highest standards possible, the EU seeks continuously to replace them in the drive towards European “harmonisation”. Such harmonisation must be imposed on all Member States in order for the EU to create the seamless Single Market that will enable the construction of a new European Super State. Pivotal to achieving this end goal is the elimination of all traces of national diversity. Every facet of each Member State’s social and economic infrastructure is, therefore, now subject to EU-defined regulation.
EU initiatives are supposed to improve standards but, in reality, they generally serve to create unnecessary bureaucracy and suffocate British enterprise. Any notable improvements in services that may be achieved are, moreover, rendered insignificant by the over burdensome red tape and associated increase in costs for British business and consumers that the legislation entails.
As a British National Party MEP, Nick Griffin opposes all unnecessary interference in affairs which are rightly the concern of national governments. The proposed Roadworthiness Package, with its restrictive and narrow definition of Historic Vehicles, will hurt British business as well as curtailing the personal freedoms of classic car enthusiasts. He will, therefore, vote against the adoption of this proposal when it is presented to the European Parliament and will lobby other MEPs to do the same.
Kind regards
Tina Wingfield
Constituency Manager
For Nick Griffin, MEP
How refreshing
Anyone got any asbestos brake shoes they want to sell ?
"You,re only supposed to blow the bloody SLIDING doors off"
"You,re only supposed to blow the bloody SLIDING doors off"
recieved this 1 as well:
Dear Mr Cloke
Thank you very much for your email.
I do agree with the points you make about the dangers of the proposed European Regulation on the periodic roadworthiness tests for motor vehicles and their trailers.
This is one of many reasons why I am opposed to the UK being a member of the European Union.
If you would like to find out more about the myths of the EU and a positive vision of an independent Britain outside the European Union, please do take a look at my website at www.dcbmep.org.
Yours sincerely
David Campbell Bannerman MEP
i like this guy, he wants us to leave the eu, check out www.dcbmep.org he seems to have the right idea
Dolly Commer Is Here http://66.129.69.181/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6833
Dear Mr Cloke
Thank you very much for your email.
I do agree with the points you make about the dangers of the proposed European Regulation on the periodic roadworthiness tests for motor vehicles and their trailers.
This is one of many reasons why I am opposed to the UK being a member of the European Union.
If you would like to find out more about the myths of the EU and a positive vision of an independent Britain outside the European Union, please do take a look at my website at www.dcbmep.org.
Yours sincerely
David Campbell Bannerman MEP
i like this guy, he wants us to leave the eu, check out www.dcbmep.org he seems to have the right idea
Dolly Commer Is Here http://66.129.69.181/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6833
good stuff Paul & Mr Pankhurst need to pull my finger out & do one!looks like pulling out of the EU is the way to go ? how do we go about getting this referendum Alan mentioned :I
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If I'm honest, I always voted to stay out the EU in the 1st place and I haven't voted since we did..it just seems as though the peoples vote doesn't count anymore
...we might aswell take the GREAT out of GB ......its all a blooming con and how are we spose to believe any politicians ever? ....they all have a hidden adjender (cant spell I know) ....all they will achieve at the end of the day is they will encourage people to be rebellious and dishonest! If you can't beat them, join them!!
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...we might aswell take the GREAT out of GB ......its all a blooming con and how are we spose to believe any politicians ever? ....they all have a hidden adjender (cant spell I know) ....all they will achieve at the end of the day is they will encourage people to be rebellious and dishonest! If you can't beat them, join them!!
"You,re only supposed to blow the bloody SLIDING doors off"