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Check 13 is connected to shaft 11 correctly too...can cause issues...
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Beachboy
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I would say a gear oil issue, linkages would be bad if the van was hot or cold. More likely to be low oil or even the wrong grade of oil. Not sure I agree with Panky on the oil grade though, I think it should be EP 80 or 90 so that the pressure inside the box is correct and maintained at a constant rather than fluctuating as 20/50 wis designed to do.
Bloody Commer`s!
Bloody Commer`s!
Beachboy
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Never put that stuff in an Imp transaxle Baz.
Many years ago I replaced a clutch on an Imp for a customer and shortly after he complained of 1st and reverse gear being hard to select, I had the car back, checked the hydraulic side and had the box out again and fitted another clutch, I could not figure what had gone wrong and talking to the customer he remarked how he had changed the oil in the box for 20/50 grade after I had fitted the clutch and therein lay the problem, I changed the oil back to EP90 and the car was perfect.
If the Commer manual states 20/50 for the gearbox then that's fine and what it should be, I have only ever used EP 80/90 in my commers and never had an issue.
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Originally posted by bazzateer
Definitely 20/50 for the gearbox, same with the other 1725 engined stuff. Also BMC A series Sprites etc.
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Many years ago I replaced a clutch on an Imp for a customer and shortly after he complained of 1st and reverse gear being hard to select, I had the car back, checked the hydraulic side and had the box out again and fitted another clutch, I could not figure what had gone wrong and talking to the customer he remarked how he had changed the oil in the box for 20/50 grade after I had fitted the clutch and therein lay the problem, I changed the oil back to EP90 and the car was perfect.
If the Commer manual states 20/50 for the gearbox then that's fine and what it should be, I have only ever used EP 80/90 in my commers and never had an issue.
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Originally posted by bazzateer
Definitely 20/50 for the gearbox, same with the other 1725 engined stuff. Also BMC A series Sprites etc.
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Engine oil in the Commer gearbox - definitely.
I made the mistake many years ago using "Friction Modified" Castrol GTX 20w-50 in the gearbox and transfer case of my 75 Range Rover, which used also engine oil. The "Friction Modified" might have been a bonus for motor performance and reducing engine wear, but played havoc with the syncro's, making gear changes harder. Syncro's require a certain amount of friction to slow the gear clusters so they mesh smoothly. The oil basicly was too good and gear changes, particularly down shifts became very slow as the oil was stopping the syncro from doing what it was supposed to do. Most modern engine oils have "Friction Modifiers" and other things beneficial for an engine.
The issue here is, that we are talking about gearboxes, which have very different lubricating needs to motors.
If the manual says mono grade oil, like SAE30, I would stick to it, however times have moved on. I use Australian made Penrite Oils for a number of years and just thought I would check what their Catalogue on line says, which proved quite interesting. They have a range of "Classic Oils" specifically for cars where mono-grades were specified. The following is taken from the website
"Penrite Gearbox Oil 30 is a multigrade gearbox oil designed specifically for use in vehicles that originally used the same oil in the gearbox as was recommended and used in the engine. Many vehicles manufactured in the fifties and sixties specified engine oil for use in the gearbox. Whilst this was convenient, a proper gear oil was a better alternative. Gearbox Oil 30 can be used in vintage, veteran and classic gearboxes including those fitted with straight, synchro and epicyclic gears, overdrives and those vehicles fitted with pre-selector gearboxes.
Gearbox Oil 30 is an SAE 20W-60 oil designed for use where SAE 30 oils were originally specified.
•Does not contain friction modifiers.
•Will not cause overdrives and pre-selector bands to slip.
•Does not contain EP additives
•Compatible with synchro cones and other metal parts.
Oils ain't Oils, so engine oil is for the engine, it has stuff in it that will reduce the performance of your gearbox. Not sure if you have Penrite over there, but it would be best for you to check the Oil Companies web sites, to see if they supply oils that are appropriate for the age and design of the gearboxes we use
Cheers Stephen
The issue here is, that we are talking about gearboxes, which have very different lubricating needs to motors.
If the manual says mono grade oil, like SAE30, I would stick to it, however times have moved on. I use Australian made Penrite Oils for a number of years and just thought I would check what their Catalogue on line says, which proved quite interesting. They have a range of "Classic Oils" specifically for cars where mono-grades were specified. The following is taken from the website
"Penrite Gearbox Oil 30 is a multigrade gearbox oil designed specifically for use in vehicles that originally used the same oil in the gearbox as was recommended and used in the engine. Many vehicles manufactured in the fifties and sixties specified engine oil for use in the gearbox. Whilst this was convenient, a proper gear oil was a better alternative. Gearbox Oil 30 can be used in vintage, veteran and classic gearboxes including those fitted with straight, synchro and epicyclic gears, overdrives and those vehicles fitted with pre-selector gearboxes.
Gearbox Oil 30 is an SAE 20W-60 oil designed for use where SAE 30 oils were originally specified.
•Does not contain friction modifiers.
•Will not cause overdrives and pre-selector bands to slip.
•Does not contain EP additives
•Compatible with synchro cones and other metal parts.
Oils ain't Oils, so engine oil is for the engine, it has stuff in it that will reduce the performance of your gearbox. Not sure if you have Penrite over there, but it would be best for you to check the Oil Companies web sites, to see if they supply oils that are appropriate for the age and design of the gearboxes we use
Cheers Stephen