im still new to all this stuff. whats best thing to use when uve got some rot on the little flappy window on drivers side and passenger side or whats best thing to do. also the bit above windowscreen that arch that hangs over front of van rotting inside there. i need to seel it somehow any ideas?? please help thanks all.
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hi,i will be waiting to hear the answers to this as mine all need similar repairs,little flappy window on drivers side and passenger side are quarter lights(windows)the bit above windowscreen that arch that hangs over front of van rotting is a peak or visor i believe? i try not to look up there [V]
Hello scocrro1
Started working today on tiny patch of rust on inside just under quarterlight on passenger door only to discover that has been quietly rotting away under seal and turned out a bit longer than those elusive 5 minute jobs. Hopefully enough left to sort out a repair. Am planning to scavenge replacement window channel from scrap rover P5 I have here or see what else is buried in the shed. I'll let you know if this works out or if anything else comes up that may work out - or if it fails miserably.
Have you been able to get seal off to see how bad rot is underneath?
My seal was split around where window pivots on bodywork so was easy to get off - not sure how best to do it if yours intact.
I managed to wade through the deep flaky stuff (using hoover to stop rust dropping into bottom of door) and it wasn't as bad as I first thought - still have some solid metal left to fix channel to.
This was mine after getting the worst off, how bad was yours?
As to problem with roof - is a commer characteristic so I too would love some advice on saving them. Thinking of cleaning worst up and treating with stone chip. My first van was so bad I had to fill roof cavity with expanding foam and carve to shape just to help it hold together!
Good luck with problems, will let you know if I have any progress
Kes
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Started working today on tiny patch of rust on inside just under quarterlight on passenger door only to discover that has been quietly rotting away under seal and turned out a bit longer than those elusive 5 minute jobs. Hopefully enough left to sort out a repair. Am planning to scavenge replacement window channel from scrap rover P5 I have here or see what else is buried in the shed. I'll let you know if this works out or if anything else comes up that may work out - or if it fails miserably.
Have you been able to get seal off to see how bad rot is underneath?
My seal was split around where window pivots on bodywork so was easy to get off - not sure how best to do it if yours intact.
I managed to wade through the deep flaky stuff (using hoover to stop rust dropping into bottom of door) and it wasn't as bad as I first thought - still have some solid metal left to fix channel to.
This was mine after getting the worst off, how bad was yours?
As to problem with roof - is a commer characteristic so I too would love some advice on saving them. Thinking of cleaning worst up and treating with stone chip. My first van was so bad I had to fill roof cavity with expanding foam and carve to shape just to help it hold together!
Good luck with problems, will let you know if I have any progress
Kes
four star commerdation
Both tricky places to repair. I had a go at the peak but made a right hash of it so will have another attempt to do it properly, maybe a transplant from another van. Trouble is they all seem to go there, a project for woolfy I think 
. As you can see scocrro what starts as a little patch of rust can evolve into a major job and it depends on how far you want to go. You can clean up the area, paint it with rust killer and smooth it over with filler it will last a while. The other option is the expensive route and do a proper job, if the doors are bad then there are replacements around paulfordy knows a place and woolfy does new door skins. If you are on the road and just want to keep it smart for the summer then get the filler out you can always sort it out properly over the winter [8D]
. As you can see scocrro what starts as a little patch of rust can evolve into a major job and it depends on how far you want to go. You can clean up the area, paint it with rust killer and smooth it over with filler it will last a while. The other option is the expensive route and do a proper job, if the doors are bad then there are replacements around paulfordy knows a place and woolfy does new door skins. If you are on the road and just want to keep it smart for the summer then get the filler out you can always sort it out properly over the winter [8D]One further tip I can add if you are doing a temporary patch up is to give the window seal a wipe over with plumbers' silicon grease - it will help stop rain from draining under seal and into door and rotting them from inside out like mine has. Same principal applies for leaky side windows - it is inert and doesn't attack the rubber and repels water so seems to help for a while. I did end up using vaseline as an emergency replacement years back which I was able to put on in the pouring rain - rubber was still o.k years later so got away with it that time.
Well window is back in, can say what I did to fix but I warn you now - it isn't pretty......[xx(]
Made up a replacement bit of window seal channel out of galvanised scrap bit I had in shed with cut down galvy jubilee clip attached to tie new piece onto existing end of rotted channel..
When you make yours of course, It will be a gleaming example of exquisite fabrication - and will line up perfectly first time, unlike mine.
Drilled out channel in suitable places to re-attach sprung pivot and little snib window catch.
Only fixed jubilee clip in one place on new channel which allowed for some movement to let everything line up and also attached other end of channel to flat piece across top of door gap again to allow adjustment.
Seal sits back in channel now and will be repairing any splits with wetsuit repair gunge called 'black witch' once it stops bloomin' raining.
Unlikely that this is an approved piece of engineering but if any of the above principals -better executed- are any help I will be well chuffed. If anyone has any better tips - let me know 'cos I still have the drivers' door to do
New topic? - Why does it always start raining when you take your windows out[?]
Made up a replacement bit of window seal channel out of galvanised scrap bit I had in shed with cut down galvy jubilee clip attached to tie new piece onto existing end of rotted channel..
When you make yours of course, It will be a gleaming example of exquisite fabrication - and will line up perfectly first time, unlike mine.
Drilled out channel in suitable places to re-attach sprung pivot and little snib window catch.
Only fixed jubilee clip in one place on new channel which allowed for some movement to let everything line up and also attached other end of channel to flat piece across top of door gap again to allow adjustment.
Seal sits back in channel now and will be repairing any splits with wetsuit repair gunge called 'black witch' once it stops bloomin' raining.
Unlikely that this is an approved piece of engineering but if any of the above principals -better executed- are any help I will be well chuffed. If anyone has any better tips - let me know 'cos I still have the drivers' door to do
New topic? - Why does it always start raining when you take your windows out[?]
Genius, best of British bodging [^] (that's meant to be a compliment) Whatever it takes to keep us on the road and relatively dry . Looking at your pics it has brought back to me the repairs I did in exactly the same place. The only difference with mine was I made a longer piece of channel and nicked little V's out to form the curve then welded everything up and ground off the excess. Seemed to work OK but can't vouch for it being weather tight as the door is still in primer in the back of the van :I
. Looking at your pics it has brought back to me the repairs I did in exactly the same place. The only difference with mine was I made a longer piece of channel and nicked little V's out to form the curve then welded everything up and ground off the excess. Seemed to work OK but can't vouch for it being weather tight as the door is still in primer in the back of the van :I:Inicest compliment I have had all year:I
longer bit of channel definately would have been favourite if there had been more in the shed.
Mine not waterproof yet - have had monsoon rain here today so all the other weaknesses all wet through too so hopeful it won't be too bad in normal rain.Silicon grease at the ready.....
longer bit of channel definately would have been favourite if there had been more in the shed.
Mine not waterproof yet - have had monsoon rain here today so all the other weaknesses all wet through too so hopeful it won't be too bad in normal rain.Silicon grease at the ready.....
It would be nice to be able to pop down to your local motor factors and say 'give me a couple of Commer quarter light frames please' and hand over your fiver expecting change, but this is classic motoring and it does have it's limitations. Your repair was free, effective, will last for years and once the window is assembled you wouldn't know the difference. I'm sure scocrro1 can look at what you've done and be inspired to have a go himself. Repairs like this aren't difficult they just require a bit of ingenuity and patience, good on yer [^]
Good luck with it Craig, keep it dry if you can - was a hidden water trap on mine so had no idea it looked like that underneath. Just seen your pics - van looks great[8D]