Rootes Building!

Hi all, pretty sure some of you have seen this but for those that haven't, check out these images of an old Scotish Rootes building. Now derelict but cool all the same[8)] not sure that Commer's were ever built there but still good.

http://wiki.worldflicks.org/linwood.html#

http://www.urbexforums.co.uk/showthread.php/3015-Linwood-Car-Plant-Scotland-2008

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Don't throw cats in bins. It's naughty.
 
We were discussing this yesterday at the Imp club AGM. What with the imp's 50th due in 2013, and the desire for the national to be held close to the original site - which I suppose we will have to wait and see. Apparently, all that is left of the factory that is the admin block, that is now a business centre. I love the staircase in one of the photos - so 60s.

As far as the commers go, I'd say possibly the only commers that were built there are the initial imp vans that were badged as commers for the two or three year or so of production. They may have been produced at Luton, but I am sure that they were probably put together in Linwood along with all their brethren.

Here's my baby commer - currently my daily drive (albeit a bit of a cold one atm with no heater). Note the commer badge on the bonnet:

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Wow, a lot of history there with the Linwood production plant, some of the Talbot signwriting was visible too.


Below are a few photos of the Australian Rootes Group production buildings in Port Melbourne.

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A few other photos (past and present) of the Australian Rootes assembly line plants that are in a larger way still standing in Port Melbourne, Victoria are at the following links.

http://www.sa.hillman.org.au/RootesFactory.htm

http://www.sa.hillman.org.au/RootesFactory2.htm

http://www.vic.rootesgroup.org.au/AussieHistory.html

http://www.sunbeam.org.au/factories/fishbend.htm


 
As a matter of interest the Commer factory in Dunstable is in the process of being demolished to make way for yet more industrial units that will remain empty for years!
The factory has latterly been owned by Renault who of course own the Dodge company who gobbled up the Chrysler/Commer commercial company many moons ago.
There were people in Luton and Dunstable who would work at both the Commer and Bedford factorys as they stood opposite each other in Boscombe Road and other workers would swap employment between Commer and Bedford depending on who was paying the best rates at the time! The Bedford factory was demolished many years ago and is now a retail park and warehousing, the Commer factory has not been used by Renault for many years and was sub let to a large distribution company among others.
Sad to see yet more of our motoring heritage bite the dust but I guess thats progress :(
 
I live about 5 miles from Dunstable, and by chance drove past the site on Sunday, not realising that it was where my Commer came from. I think I'll be paying a visit this week. Fancy that Baz? Hopefully it won't be too far gone by then.
 
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I live about 5 miles from Dunstable, and by chance drove past the site on Sunday, not realising that it was where my Commer came from. I think I'll be paying a visit this week. Fancy that Baz? Hopefully it won't be too far gone by then.

dont forget to take some pics please;)[?]

Dodge Glendale
 
The ironic thing about Vauxhall at Luton is that they make Renault vans under licence. [:0]
Apart from their car derived models, I don't think Vauxhall have built a proper Bedford van since the CF.

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'I intend to live forever - so far, so good'
 
Like Beachboy's comment on the hourly paid staff at the Commer and Bedford factories in Boscombe Rd., I was told the same by a collegue of mine - now working at the Vauxhall warehouse on Toddington Road. They would literally go to the factory that paid the best rate on the day, that being Rootes or Vauxhall..

And as for workforce, build quality, unions, strikes, I'm pretty sure the practice of hourly paid staff has to take a large part of the blame for all that. Fair enough, you get big orders in and need to "up" the tempo on the production line to manufacture the vehicles in greater numbers, but the way I have understood it this hinged to a large degree on staff which was hired in on the day, more or less. If you keep your salaried workforce at a minimum headcount and a larger part of the forkforce is "casual" staff, surely this could be a recipe for disaster.

I know that the car manufacturing industry still uses this practice (definitely at several GM plants, if not to a large degree at plants in Europe - to my knowledge at least).

And the big question "Where did it all go wrong?" I suppose has as many answers as you'd like it to have. But I have heard countless stories from my GM collegues here in Norway who have been with the company for a good few years, and they tell me of (export) Vauxhalls being received with disc brakes fitted to one side of the vehicle while the other side was fitted with drum brakes, packed lunches welded in between outer and inner wing (smelt so rotten that they couldn't understand what it was, and vehicle ended up as a buy-back, and the packed lunch was found when they decided to dismantle the vehicle 100%), fields parked full of Vivas with no front end - as the engine plant was on strike.. I could go on, but being at the receiving end of all this mess, no wonder the exports dried up after a while.

All of which is a shame, because Vauxhall - as good an example as any - enjoyed great success as they were better value than Opel cars over here, due to higher equipment levels and more aggressive pricing policies, and were even outselling their German counterpart in periods in what was a very established "Opel country". But all of that helps very little when the brand is left to bleed for years, that being industrial actions, low morale amongst the workforces, lack of investment in the product (Bedford trucks being a prime example of that..) which eventually lead to costomer at the other end simply walking away.

As for BL and Rootes/Chrysler, they really didn't fare any better at all, for all the same reasons. But where Vauxhall had (has) a big owner who could take a beating and eventually got things right (although at a high price for both the company and for Britain), the others did not. Hence a Linwood plant being derelict for years, an old Dunstable plant eventually being "redeveloped", as well as countless others.

That said, I too love the staircase on that link :)

http://http://www.urbexforums.co.uk/showthread.php/3015-Linwood-Car-Plant-Scotland-2008
 
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