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Trying to be a little more specific on questions here...

I've had driver and passenger seatbelts attached to the metal next to front door and floor behind seats.

So on my Maidstone has two forward facing and two rear facing seats around table in the back of the van. Seeking to put two seatbelts in the rear of the van. Both in line with driver, so both along the window where there may be anchoring points.

Rear facing seat behind bulkhead. I hope I can bolt through the metal upright, just as the driver's belt does. Can I use the same bolt hole? And what about lower securing of the other two points? There isn't the same structure such as the handbrake to secure it to.

The front facing belt I think would be harder... is any of the frame between window panes strong enough for a bolt... I'm not sure it's as strong as the front door frame... and again... at the bottom. Any ideas...
 
Pictures trying to explain... First from outside shows where / of books can be used... I have one by driver. Can I get one further back?

Second shows rear facing hope. Shoulder height seems OK, but lower may be harder.

Third picture would be further back but forward facing... Not sure there is a secure high point to not through, and the lower bolt would be somewhere around the wheel arch, so again not sure what exists... As for the middle secure point, again ideas welcomed!
 

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You should be OK doubling up on the B pillar for the rear facing seat for the top of the diagonal but you would need to weld in strong spreader plates for the other anchorage points. I'm not sure the window frame would be strong enough for an anchorage as it's probably single skinned, unlike the B pillar in the front which is basically a box section. Unfortunately you're not the first to try and solve this problem but without welding in some sort of support the option are limited.
 
Maybe I just strap the baby seat to this then...

... Seriously though (and I guessed your sensible answer Panky)... Does anyone else have any other thoughts?
 

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OOOOOOOOOOO nice rack:cool:

There is a system that uses rails attached to the floor and various seat combinations clip into it but I can't remember what it's called. A few people have mentioned it over the years but I don't know of anyone who has actually fitted it. I'll think on it.
 
Found this post from a few years ago

'I fitted an integeral seat belt seat from an LDV minibus into the back of our Highwayman for our daughter. It is bolted through the chassis. We now have twins on the way and I had to think how to get two more seats in the back.

My solution is Unwin recessed seat tracking. This is the stuff they use in minubusses to hold seats down and also in Taxis to hold wheelchairs. The recessed stuff fits into a channel I cut into the floor (the wooden part - bolts go through the floorpan and chassis) and is easily covered by a rug when not in use. The two seats (more intergral seat belt types bought on eBay) clip in and out using unwin clips. Not much space to move when they are in place but they are going to be cracking seats to sip my beer in under the awning!

Tracking and clips are expensive if bought new but eBay is always listing second hand stuff. The great thing is the seats come right out when not needed - seats are heavy though.'

Not sure if there would be enough room in the Maidstone but worth investigating
 
Cheers Panky. Got me wondering whether a considered search could find one to take apart... keeping the frame and the seatbelt and attaching onto van solidly... front facing over the wheel arch, but enabling existing seat pads (and therefore rock and roll bed) to be used. I'm once again keen to keep it looking original if possible...

Time for a hunt on ebay!
 
I know of someone who welded ISOfix loops to the floor so the baby seat clips into that. Met them on a random campsite in their commer.
I'm looking to build an a frame this winter behind each bench seat for 2x 3 point belts and do the autosleeper trick of the bench folding in half to turn it into a seat when needed will post pics when completed
 
Jimberlake. I think im going to take a punt on the frame from a minibus seat with integral seatbelt and see if i can mash it together with what i have.

And seats / pads are needed for the bed so i dont want to lose any of that... of course pictures for amusement will follow.
 
Sounds like a plan...I'm copying what I've seen in an autosleeper motor home we borrowed last year, only way I can see of keeping it looking kind of stock and still having the bed across. Very interested in seeing pics of your go though
 
So I've been shopping. An LDV Maxus minibus seat.

Here's to fettling... Bottom bolts come undone giving me lots of flexibility.

And the pads were easy to remove.

I need to make the back closer to vertical and see how close to the wall I can press the seat belt. I then need to work out how to attach to the wheel arch and bolt through the floor and what to secure it to...

Any ideas...
 

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It looks like if you took the divider out of the wooden seat box you could move the seat frame forward to give room for the back of the seat without altering it. Bolt the frame through the floor and use good thick spreader plates either side of the floor to give plenty of support.
 
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