Hi all from down under!

Hi Chromo,

I did ring the guy about the other two vans, i just haven't had time to go out and look at them, being kinda half way across vic from me!, i realise the internet isn't the only place for sourcing parts and info but when you live up here in the sticks where you say "commer" and 80% of the population think your talking about a "commerdore" the nets a good place to start!
When i saw your van it was the weekend of "chopped" in newstead were you over for that, if so are you going again this year? We could get the vans together and have our own "commerfest" of two vans (probly the largest gathering of commers in australia since the 60's!)

BIGCAL
 
guy's if you do pic's :p

Sybhil RIP No.1
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you just need to look a bit further than the internet...



Ive seen the one panel van located on the south cost, on Ebay in the 3 months ive been in WA.Ive not seen a Commer on any highway.Im beginning to think its going to be impossible to find a Commer this side of Australia.

Plenty of Aircooled demons though....





Paulfordy, if you are after a van PM me!

BIGCAL, I hope to be at Chopped, however my van is undergoing body restoration at the moment so it might not happen. I'll say hi if I see your van.
 
Hi all again!

Havn't had much time time to work on the van, but iv been thinking and talking about it alot!
It dont run super well and all the breaks need work so pretty much everything needs to be striped out anyway, so im thinking of putting an eight in it, and upgrading all the breaks etc.
Its looking like i can get a leyland p76 off a mate (its an aussie built tank with a 4.4L rover based v8 for those who dont know) which would make for a good power plant. a plus side is that booth my van and the leyland have bw35 gearbox so shouldnt be to hard to make things work.

Also went out scouting today and turned up these two vans, first one im told by the owner to "just take it" but it really hasn't got much of any use to me left on it! The second one the owners weren't home but left my number, i would really like to rescue this one!

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Chromo, i dont think my van will make it to Chopped (not enough hours in the day!) but i will probably take my 68 dart if you want to say g'day.

BIGCAL
 
Vans just don't rot like that over here, not that there are m/any in fields around the country. Very lucky indeed!
 
Hi BigCal,

Love the van, I'm in Sydney and have a '65 like the second one in your most recent pictures. Mines under the title "The New Project". I'm undecided as to the motor/gearbox set up I will run, but I'm leaning towards a rotary at this point. At least yours goes further than up and down the drive on a winch cable.

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If you go with the P76 Motor you will need some brakes!! I'm slowly working on adapting Holden/Commodore front discs and disc brake rear end, because I think brakes are a great invention and the Commer factory seemed to forget about at the time. It must have been getting close to knock off time!!

I will keep you and everyone else posted here and/or on my page on my progress. I was planning on making a couple of extra front calliper mounts "just in case", plus if anyone else was interested.

I've been keeping an eye out locally for a driver’s side outside door handle, side door hinges as mine are bent from when the door flew open while on the move in its previous life and gear lever and everything back to the gearbox. If you can grab any of this off the van in the bush, I'm sure we work something out with the brakes for you.

I don't recall ever seeing a Commer in Sydney since I was a kid, and thought they looked pretty cool then. My memory was awakened by the Episode of Dr Who where everyone was stuck in grid lock in Commers that could fly. Now that would be cool, looking up and see one fly by, but we know this will never happen, because when it come time to land you would end up crashing as the brakes are so bad!

Good luck on the project and will enjoy reading of your progress.
Cheers, Suinnyboy
 
Hey suinny boy,
I have come across your post, i think its a good idea changing to commerdore breaks like you said easy to get bits for!
My plan is to use a Centura rear axle its 2" wider but shouldn't be a real issue with the right offset, and VH-VJ Valiant hubs and rotors with Landcrusier 4pot calipers. No real reason for this other than i have all this stuff laying around and it would make it FORD stud patten (as we aussie's know it) i haven't investergated to see what will be involved or if i can get bearings for the val hubs to commer stubs but this is what my plan would be.
I will keep a look out on how the commerdore convo goes!

I will keep an i out for bits, could maybe get them off that van i will find out for you.

BIGCAL
 
Hi BigCal,

The Commodore disc bearings are the same size as the Commers, but they are spaced too far apart, which is good. I'm planning to shorten the stub axle, machine the correct position for the bearing and re tap the retaining nut thread.

The reason I originally looked at the Commodore set up was that there are heaps of 16-18" wheels out there, as is the case with late model Falcons, but they are all negative offset, and I am sure that they will foul the suspension. I'm also concerned about reducing the front track, which doesn't need to be any narrower than it is now.

I'm about to check an HQ-HZ disc to see if the bearing sizes are the same. The HQ-HZ stud pattern is fractionally different to the Commodore, but at least all the mags will be positive offset. Problem is that all the 2nd hand mags are 14" and I reckon it will look like it's running on skateboard wheels! The idea was to use mags that are easily available and cheap. I've got a 235/45 x 17" (tyre only), which looks fantastic when you stick under the van.

I also looked at adapting VG and/or Centura discs to the original Commer hubs. Those VG/Centura discs were hard to find at the wreckers 20 years ago. I had a few of each in the shed too. Everyone used them with Commodore calipers on our Datsun 1600 Group G Rally Cars back in the 80's, but unfortunately I tossed the matching hubs years ago. All the discs we are talking about are around 280mm (11") and ventilated. The best thing with the Rally Car, was that the brakes were so big that you didn't need to use competition pads, they never got hot enough. When you needed new pads you headed off to Kmart Auto Department and paid $68 a set instead of $180+ for the pads for the Datsun Competition 4 pot calipers.

I need to do some more measuring before I decide which way to go. I ultimately want to use the Commer as a tow vehicle and really want to go the four wheel disc option. I'm sure between the two of us we'll figure out something.

Australia is a big country and I don't intend to be driving the Van for hours on the redline at 100kph, plus the bonus of be sworn at all day . It needs to "cruise" at 120kph and stop when loaded. I like the idea of cruising and pass modern cars, were the kids in the back ask their parents "What's That", and the parents see the small badge on the roof disappearing and reply, "I think it was a Comet!" Hopefully when it's done I'd like to think of it as a Van for the 21st Century, without the horrid modern styling.

I might hit the shed next weekend and try and get the project "moving forward". Just had a funny thought, no one else probably has the faintest idea what we are talking about.

Cheers catch you later,
Suinnyboy
 
Yeah true commerdore, centura? the tables have turned!! i have to spend half the night looking up what there talking about!

I measured up a VG rear axle and the spring plates are in the same spots BUT there on the bottem not on the top and the thing is a lot wider, the centura is a little bit narrower, im heading towards centura as i have one set up with 10" drums and a 3:23 LSD in my dart only prob is i have to build a new diff for that so i can use it!

when i get a cance i will start having a measure up with my Val hubs and let you know how it goes!

BIGCAL
 
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Originally posted by Comm - Pete

And a good pair of sunglasses;-)

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Originally posted by BIGCAL

Yeah true commerdore, centura? the tables have turned!! i have to spend half the night looking up what there talking about!

I measured up a VG rear axle and the spring plates are in the same spots BUT there on the bottem not on the top and the thing is a lot wider, the centura is a little bit narrower, im heading towards centura as i have one set up with 10" drums and a 3:23 LSD in my dart only prob is i have to build a new diff for that so i can use it!

when i get a cance i will start having a measure up with my Val hubs and let you know how it goes!

BIGCAL



Hi Cal,

Having lots of problems getting my standard rear wheels on and off with radial tyres fitted, as I have lowered the van a bit. The side wall of the tyre gets wedged between the wheel studs and the bodywork. If you are planning on lowering your van, it might be worth considering a narrowed diff rather than a wider unit?

Chromo
 
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Originally posted by Suinnyboy

Hi BigCal,

I've been keeping an eye out locally for a driver’s side outside door handle, side door hinges as mine are bent from when the door flew open while on the move in its previous life and gear lever and everything back to the gearbox. If you can grab any of this off the van in the bush, I'm sure we work something out with the brakes for you.

Good luck on the project and will enjoy reading of your progress.
Cheers, Suinnyboy



I'm after door hinges for the side loading door as well, they are the "suicide" style. Could be time to get some cast/fabricated???

Chromo
 
on the wheel front could you not remove studs and have the hub threaded to accept wheel bolts instead[?][?][?]

The early bird catches the worm... but the early worm gets eaten first!
 
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