Front oil seal

Seeing how winter is settling in nicely now, snow i forecast and everythink. I am starting to think about spending some time under the van. :)

Does anyone have any experience/advice on changing the front crank oil seal? Can it be done with the engine in? (and taking the radiator and surrounding panel out)

Rupert

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They don't have one Rupert :I There is a reverse screw machined into the crank, which pushes the oil back.
If you have a leak, is possibly the sump gasket ;)

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And it is surprisingly effective:)

I only realised this when we came to change the timing chain/cog/tensioner, as other engines of the same era, the Ford Kent for example, do have one:)
 
ah thanks chaps. :I

Martin, I changed the sump gasket the year before last and it's still drip drip dripping so I was thinking there may be something else to do. Does the scroll get all manky and stop working?

Rupert

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It can happen and also the timing chain cover can get damaged ;)

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SunbeamSam showed us a mod a while ago that is popular with the Alpine brigade. It involved welding a steel boss onto the timing chain cover to take a conventional oil seal.

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Problem could be the little cork strips that slot into the front and rear main bearing housings. These are really easy to get pinched under the sump flange when tightening it up. They need to have lots of sealing compound on both sides when they go in. Even then they will most likley leak anyway. Its a bit of a mission impossible to get a leak free commer engine. Some folks mount a little tray under the front to catch the drips. Give the area a really good clean with degreaser and watch it with the engine running. You might be able to see where it is leaking with any luck but if it is only a couple of drips after a run i wouldnt bother. On the Iceman the sump had got a hit and the dent had distorted the flange just a little bit but it was enough to make for a 'wet' engine. I havent run it since the rebuild but hopes are high...

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Originally posted by THE ICEMAN

Problem could be the little cork strips that slot into the front and rear main bearing housings. These are really easy to get pinched under the sump flange when tightening it up. They need to have lots of sealing compound on both sides when they go in. Even then they will most likley leak anyway. Its a bit of a mission impossible to get a leak free commer engine. Some folks mount a little tray under the front to catch the drips. Give the area a really good clean with degreaser and watch it with the engine running. You might be able to see where it is leaking with any luck but if it is only a couple of drips after a run i wouldnt bother. On the Iceman the sump had got a hit and the dent had distorted the flange just a little bit but it was enough to make for a 'wet' engine. I havent run it since the rebuild but hopes are high...

A commer down under - or down under a commer?



I'm not too fussed with the drips myself, I think of it as a rolling oil change. Saying that the little "vampire bites" from the front and rear seals every time I park up are a little embarassing!

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'rolling oil change' i like that! I think the commer engine is one of the few that was designed to run with the oil on the outside!!!

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have also tried something called a v-seal fitted to the pulley. I think success depends on type of pulley you have and the amount of space available. you need to smooth (wet&dry) the front of the timing chain cover where the seal makes contact.

For less than a quid tis worth a go.
http://www.gbsa.com/v-seals.php

shows what a I mean, CPC sell them.

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