fitting a rapier engine and box

i am thinking of fitting a rapier engine and overdrive box to my dodge what should i look out for the engine is out of a fast back one fitted with twin strongburgs i think it was lent over in the car but will be upright in the van will the carbs be ok? want to use a overdrive box from the same kind of car will this be ok as i am thinking that that must have lent over with the engine i dont have it at my place yet to have a look at it yet so anyone have any tips
will it all work???
 
I think this is the swap Sunbeamsam is currently undertaking. Have a look at this thread and see if it helps.

http://66.129.69.181/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1443&whichpage=1
 
this is the bit he is on at the moment - he has a couple of twin carb options that are being investigated; I am sure sam will let us all know what works best :D
 
I have done this conversion successfully.
See: http://66.129.69.181/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1382

Runs nice, now sorting out propshaft having fitted O/D box.

Used twin stromberg 150s

Cheers
Jules

RatSport www.ratsport.co.uk
 
Kilx the commer looks to be having rapier engine and overdrive - thanks for reminding me about your thread Jules - that will be really helpful, might ask on owners behalf for some contact details if you would be willing for them to find out if you hit any probs:)

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quote:
Originally posted by commerjules

I have done this conversion successfully.
See: http://66.129.69.181/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1382

Runs nice, now sorting out propshaft having fitted O/D box.

Used twin stromberg 150s

Cheers
Jules

RatSport www.ratsport.co.uk

what inlet manifold did you use did the gearbox crossmember fit ok ?
 
quote:
Originally posted by studiocommer

Kilx the commer looks to be having rapier engine and overdrive - thanks for reminding me about your thread Jules - that will be really helpful, might ask on owners behalf for some contact details if you would be willing for them to find out if you hit any probs:)

Bessie - four star commerdation



Just ask here. I look on the forum most days:D

Cheers
Jules

RatSport www.ratsport.co.uk
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jon

Looks like a standard inlet rapier one to me with the rapier h120 exhaust manifold ;)


absolutely

Also no real probs with crossmember

Cheers
Jules

RatSport www.ratsport.co.uk
 
Thanks Jules - Charlie Klix not currently down with us youngsters on the new fangled internet:I - would ratsport number reach you?

Bessie - four star commerdation
 
Fair 'nuff - happy to act as go-between until they join the land of web.
Have printed out your thread and posted it to them royal mail style - should be really helpful - nice work:)

Bessie - four star commerdation
 
I haven't quite got the carbs in yet (still rebuilding them) but planning to fit them. Have trial fitted them and all seems okay - though no room for air filters without some 'modification'(read angle grinder).

There are two types of rootes 1725 alloy headed engines - fitted to vehicles before 1967(ish) think rapiers/sceptres/alpine/superminxes etc. These were mounted vertically, had course splines on the gearbox / prop, and had the smaller earlier type OD units - and in my opinion should be pretty much a straght swap into a commer.

After 1967 (ish though there is some overlap) the 'Hunter' range of cars came out (inc the H120 and Hunter GLS Holbay modded ones). In these cars the engines are canted over slightly (20degs?), can't remember why - but when trying to retro fit one of these engines into am earlier vehicle - a commer, the engine needs to made 'vertical'. This is simple to do as you just take the front plate off you commer engine and put it on the donor hunter motor. easy job.
The problem comes if you want to use the 'hunter' gearbox, this has the later (bigger) OD and more splines on the gearbox and prop. If the engine has been made 'vertical' the gearbox will now be canted over. There seems to be just enough play in the commer linkage to accomodate this (wait out!).
A more cunning idea might be to use an earlier OD gearbox (pre hunter and course spined). Word on the street is that a GT6/Vitesse cluch plate can help marry things up here, or just fit the flywheel from you commer.

If you don't like twin strombies, there are single carb variants, twin zeniths, twin webers...

Exhaust was straight forward. used bits from http://www.jetex.co.uk/website/custom_parts.php?mat=Aluminised+or+mild&dia=1.75+inch

Prop shaft i just cut and shut the rapier one with the commer one. will probably get it balanced by someone like http://www.propshaft-services.co.uk/ This isn't expensive, will get them to fit new UJs at the same time.

Crossmember I haven't done yet, but will be straightforward.

Gearlinkage is proving a little tedious, bent and rotated the support bracket to get some distance and unscrewed the rear part of teh linkage to get a couple of inchs. Seems okay - but gear knob now very close to dash. Think this will require further love.
 
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