Oil thrower upgrade to proper oil seal??

[Enigma]

Hi, so I have removed the timing chain cover to cure an oil leak from the crankshaft and found it doesn't have a proper oil seal but as you see from the photo's it has an oil thrower which I'm dubious about refitting.......does anyone know if there is an alternative timing chain cover that incorporates a proper oil seal?? I'm thinking possibly from a Hunter or similar?

If not it looks like I'll be posting my cover to Tim for some modernisation[8D]

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[martin maltas]

Someone did that conversion a while back.

www.commervanspares.co.uk
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[Panky]

Have you got the engine on the bench[:0]
I'm pretty sure all of the Rootes engines used the oil thrower/spiral groove technique but I have heard of a modification - I think Sunbeam Sam used it on his van, a bit like this.

http://teae.org/adapting-an-oil-seal-to-the-timing-chain-cover-of-the-sunbeam-alpine-engine/

Harvey & Bonnie

 

[Enigma]

Thanks Panky, I think I'll send my cover to Tim and let the genius do his stuff

Yes the engine is on the bench, I took the head off to make it lighter so I could lift it up there

This is how I braced things so the crank couldn't turn whilst I undid the pulley wheel bolt....for me, that's quite impressive

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[Panky]

Very impressive - now you didn't just take the engine out to do the timing chain cover[?]

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[Enigma]

LOL, no Panky...I'm not that mad ....I want to fit a new sump gasket and oil pump filter too

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[Panky]

Erm, it's a bit awkward but you could have done that in situ:I
But all good experience whipping the lump out

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[Enigma]

I'm still not that mad Panky ....this one is my spare engine, I'm using it as a guinea pig to practice on so when I do Tiggers it will make it quicker and easier for me...it's my self teaching tool

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[Panky]

Dohhhhhh
I thought you'd turned into a mechanical whirlwind

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[Enigma]

LOL......sorry I teased you lol ......I'm just using it to help me learn...I'm a lot more confident these days compared to when we got our first van though! ...I might just carry on stripping it down and then rebuild it just for the hell of it....I believe it to be a good engine, however the water ways are well and truly sludged up.....still, I have plenty of time

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[Enigma]

So, when I fit the new sump gasket, is it necessary to remove the front and rear bearing caps to apply sealant as per the manual suggests??

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[Panky]

It will already have some in from when it was last assembled but you might as well do it and check the bearing while you're there just to make sure Just don't over do the sealant

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[Enigma]

Ok, so how do I check the bearing? what am I looking for? scoring?

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[Panky]

Yes and bearing wear in general. More importantly scoring on the crankshaft. The bearing shells themselves will be stamped on the back to show if the crank has been re-ground in the past:- STD if they are original or +.01, +.02, +.30 etc if it's been re-ground. If the crank looks good it may be worth putting new bearings in anyway while you're in there

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[Enigma]

Thanks John....

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