Commer Auto-Sleeper; codes

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As there are quite a few Commer Auto-Sleeper owners using this forum I thought it might help if the different codes were posted, as there were variations between the models, as owners may have discovered when meeting up! A Commer Auto-Sleeper is a Commer Auto-Sleeper you might think, but not quite, so here goes for any anoraks out there;
C20 model- 2 berth, with seating for 7 (bulkhead)
C22 model- 2 berth, with seating for 6 (non-bulkhead)
WB C23 model- 2 berth, with seating for 6 (WB designates=wide bed & non-bulkhead)
C21 model- 4 berth, with seating for 7 (bulkhead)
NB C24 model- 4 berth, seating for 7 (extra large double bed or 2 singles & non-bulkhead)
Examples quoted are circa 1972;)

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Thank you [^]I would love to be an anorack but I am just not that clever :IWhats a bulkhead :I[?]

Sybhil & no1
 
It means the wooden 'bulkhead' which Auto-Sleepers placed between the cab and rear living area. Some models don't have it, they have an access gap instead (non-bulkhead). Just out of interest, the early Commer Auto-Sleepers also have a narrower rising roof section than the later models;)

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Thank you :)sybhil has bulkhead..no.1 has the cupboards behind front seats with slot in wood for separating is this bulkhead or non bulkhead [?]
That explains why the roofs are sometimes smaller [8D]

Sybhil & no1
 
Problem is, some owners have removed the wooden bulkhead over the years, which could make model identification a bit tricky. If your bulkhead is removable, then I think that passes as non-bulkhead[?] but I stand to be corrected.

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This subject has been niggling away at me for ages so great that you posted [8D] no.1 is an early ish one with bucket type seats all looks very tatty but original & honest.do you know why some roofs appear to be moulded inside out [8)]

Sybhil & no1
 
Hmmm. Ours is an 1972/3 automatic so the front seats slide down to make a small double (single?). We have a bulkhead, side seats and table which drop to a double and a hammock position in the roof. Not sure where we fit into this... But then I could just be being stoopid... Are we a C21?
 
Yes, you have the C21 which was described as having a 'Bench/bed in cab'.

I started with nothing.....and I still have most of it!
 
I like this kind of stuff! Do you know if there is an Autosleeper designation palate anywhere on the van? I have "upgraded" jessica from a C22 to something that's not on the list (4 berth.. soon to be 5 berth!)

I love this kind of stuff - pass my anorak!

Matin noticed the inside out poptop thing. I am guessing that it has something to do with wether there is a roof lining fitted or not. The other thing to bear in mind is that that roof was fitted to lots of different vans (like Bedford CFs).

Where did you get this info from? More More!

Rupert

www.littleyellowcar.co.uk
 
Putting on my best anorak - I don't think there were any Autosleeper type model variations with the Wanderer, but it certainly changed over the years. Our early model (1967) by Bluebird had a wooden bulkhead with clips to support one end of the table and a shelf on top, but the later models didn't, they had the back of the bench seat/double bed exposed. The early model also had a full height narrow larder cupboard at the rear offside corner and full length shelves above the side windows. I believe these were missing from later models. The interior was largely finished in wood like the Autosleeper, but the lift up tops and fronts to the sink and cooker were dark wood grain formica. The front seat and back slid forward and down to form a double bed, the rear seats and table formed a double and there was one roll out bunk on the nearside. A curtain could be drawn to separate the cab from the rest of the van.

The extra internal length of the Commer over the Bedford CF and Transit was apparent with the Wanderer roof, which had three windows in each side (matching the indents in the roof panel), whereas the Ford and Bedford variants ony had sufficient length for two.

Sorry to bore you! [|)]

Are there any early Wanderers surviving?

'It's not a proper slider'
 
I had an 84 year old guy, ring me last night, from CCC. He has a Wanderer and was after catches that hold the pop top up. Do you have any pics of yours? Didn't ask what year his van was.

Just rang him back, his van is a '71 :)
 
Two companies still exist down in Dorset who have ex-CI Autohomes staff on board. Both still stock some bits and pieces for the old CI campers, worth trying for clips ect, they are; Autovan Services, Tel. 01202 848414 and Charles & Son, Tel. 01202 380007(Ex-CI stores building on old CI site).
Don't think there was a model desigantion plate anywhere on the Commer Auto-Sleeper? Early Commer Wanderer was the Moto-Plus.

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if seasick steve had a camper....

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where's the bulkhead on this one[?][}:)][:eek:)]:D


Bessie - four star commerdation
 
Love it Kes, but think he went 'over the top' with that front sun-visor!:D

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